geometries 137*

…“But the Angles were a British tribe, right? And the Saxons were German?”

We are back in Wen’s study after the half triumph of the first of our Glastonbury talks, which aside from a few timing problems, went as well as could have been expected in view of the weather and the somewhat intricate complications of the run up.

“No, that’s not right either; both the Saxons and the Angles were Germanic tribes.”

“Our country is now named after a Germanic tribe! I think we need to know more about the Anglo-Saxons and the original Britons who could, perhaps, be more or less synonymous with what we now like to call the Celts.”

“As you may have already surmised my sense of history is somewhat sketchy at the best of times but in relation to the Anglo-Saxons and what went before it is practically non-existent.”

“That’s hardly surprising. Much of their contribution to these lands was conveniently forgotten after 1066, for obvious reasons.”

“Well, they certainly seem to have got the proportions of their churches spot on at least for the smaller sites. There is an Irish reference to the coming of Christ in one of the Conchobar stories, something about a ball being shaken loose from his head and killing him. He was also regarded as a sort of giant if memory serves. I had always assumed that the story, or at least that particular aspect of it, was merely a monkish interpolation.”

Wen is checking something in the Dictionary, “Get this… ‘Ætheling from O.E . . . . Æpling, ‘son of a king, man of royal blood, nobleman, chief, prince, king, Christ, God-Man, Hero, Saint…’

“Wait a minute… wait a minute… give me that last bit again.”

“…Christ, God-Man, Hero, Saint…”

“Didn’t we call our Arthur, Aeth in, ‘The Heart of Albion’?”

“We did.”

“And didn’t we set his story in Mercia?”

“We did.”

“And didn’t Mercia grow to become the largest and most powerful Anglo-Saxon kingdom of Albion at one point in its history?”

“It did indeed.”

“Well that’s it then…The Anglo Saxon kings were claiming divine descent.”

“…Along with most other European kings at that time no doubt.”

“That’s true, but the Anglo-Saxon kings’ descent wasn’t from God it was from Christ.”

“And how did they get there?”

“They got there from their very own High One who also hung from a tree with a spear in his side… shrieking.”


“They evidently regarded Christ as an avatar of Odin.”

“Blimey, you’ll not read that in any history book!”

“Just as well we’re not writing a history then isn’t it?”

The Aetheling Thing

16 thoughts on “God-Man…

  1. And just have to say- Here, across the pond – we are, supposedly, the folks that ‘forged ahead and demanded better’ all of our own accord -with no prior precedents set in history – and yet, what the US Founding Fathers used, as a ‘framework’ for their ‘new version’ sounds very similar, to my ear/mind/knowledge, as the original dream/intent of those who fashioned Magna Carta – – 🙂 But hey, why say so – out loud? (Cuz I love my Dad, who told me, early on – “There’s nothing new under the sun – just a step forward or new interpretation, but you always go forth while standing on the shoulders of those who went before you – for good or ill….” 🙂

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      1. well, I’m going to get sappy and brag – My dad was the wisest, smartest person I’ve ever known personally – he remembered exact facts and the story – I tend to remember the story/people/intents/motivations/connections between things, but if folks ask, “when did that happen?” – I’ll say, “I think 1348 – but it could have 1343 , not sure, but who cares? you realize the roots of it all began about a hundred years before, right? THAT’s the important thing …” LOL – He despaired of my lassisez faire approach to date details – 🙂

        He remembered it all – 🙂 But he also loved the ‘possibilities’ and the lost wisdom – and he never poohed-poohed me when I read and learned about the different religions/spiritual traditions throughout history/the world – and always reminded me when I was blindly judging life from my inexperienced/ignorant perspective –

        I was so very, very lucky to have him – I would not be the person I am, had he not been my Dad – 🙂

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          1. Thank you – I’m not certain, but I try to live the to make that a reasonable possibility! 🙂 We never had a ‘daddy and his little princess’ relationship – he set higher standards for me than for most, BUT he always had my back when I stood for right – and warned me when he thought I was taking a stance on the wrong side of the field – So yes, I got the best of both worlds – respect and mutual aide that was earned – but protection when I was too naive to know what the heck I was getting into – 🙂 …Hmmm – another thought, but I’m just going to have to write a blog, instead of blogging in your comments section – – LOL –

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  2. I looked up “black Irish” on Google as my dad always said he was part black Irish. I found some interesting charts about the origins of the people of the present UK and Ireland. It said it was from DNA testing and was color coded. I know a person can’t always trust the web information, but it was interesting and sounded possible. 🙂 — Suzanne J.


  3. Goodness, this is getting deep!!! Just when I was feeling comfortable with Castles of the Mind, suddenly this comes up and now I am all a-dither (chuckles). Well, live and learn . . . Good and interesting stuff, even when I am not sure where it is all going.

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