The ‘Graduate School’ Solution…
The clue in the poem is the very clunky ‘over there’.
If something is over there, then ‘we’ must be here.
Presence though, like time, involves Set Theory.
So even ‘over there’ is still here for us.
But then ‘here’ is always the answer to the question ‘Where were we?” or, ‘Where are we?’
Except, when we die and we become ‘Not here,’ or ‘No longer here,’ because not, or no longer, heard.
But maybe, if we listen very hard, the ‘not here’ or ‘no longer here,’ may, actually, be heard.
They may still be here?